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#2 Jul-21-2015 07:17:am

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LOL! That's going somewhere.......


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#3 Jul-22-2015 09:15:pm

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#4 Jul-23-2015 03:21:pm

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http://www.dailyrecord.com/story/news/local/morris-county/2015/07/22/american-indian-tribe-sues-new-jersey/30508681/

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An American Indian tribe is suing New Jersey officials to demand it be recognized by the state government.

The Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation filed a federal civil rights suit on Monday saying that not having recognition hurts its members psychologically and financially.

The tribe, which is based in Bridgeton, traces its history in the area back 12,000 years and says it now has 3,000 members — the majority of them living in the state. New Jersey made the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape its third recognized tribe with a legislative resolution in 1982.

But the tribe says that’s now at risk because of an two-sentence email sent by a staffer at the New Jersey Commission on American Indian Affairs to the federal government’s General Accounting Office in 2011 that said New Jersey had not recognized tribes — a change that could also affect the Powhatan-Renape Nation and the Ramapough Mountain Indians, which also had been designated by the state.

Gregory Werkheiser, a lawyer for the tribe, said some state officials became nervous more than a decade ago about the possibility of recognized tribes trying to develop casinos. But Werkheiser said the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Nation has no interest in that, a position spelled out in the tribe’s constitution. And even if it did, he said, it would take federal recognition— which can take decades to secure — for that to happen.

The state status is important to the tribe because, without recognition, it says, its members cannot sell crafts including beadwork, walking sticks, drums, headdresses, regalia, and pottery as “Indian made,” an issue that could cost more than $250,000 a year.

Werkheiser said the tribe’s artisans — many of them senior citizens — have already seen their income take a major hit from that.

And the tribe says it could lose $600,000 in grants, tribal jobs and scholarships that are tied to its designation as a recognized tribe. “State recognition of a tribe has little to no impact on a state budget, except that it may provide tribes access to certain federal benefits that save the state from spending its own dollars,” the tribe contends in the suit.

The state government has not responded to the claims in court.

The state Assembly passed a bill in 2011 on procedures for recognizing tribes, but the measure never received a vote in the Senate.

A spokesman for John Hoffman, the state acting attorney general, said the office would not respond as it generally does not talk in public about lawsuits it faces.

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#5 Jul-25-2015 06:57:am

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#6 Jul-25-2015 07:25:am

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If they're not recognized by the State of New Jersey, then what's this at the State website?  LOL!  Note the first sentence under "About the Commission":  The New Jersey Commission on Native American Affairs was created by P.L. 1134, c.295, and signed into law on December 22, 1995, by Governor Christine Todd Whitman.  And note, also, in the left-hand column, the names of the tribes from which commission members are selected--including the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape.

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#7 Jul-26-2015 08:21:am

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Becker never claimed they weren't Indian. Just that they weren't Lenape.


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#8 Jul-26-2015 08:29:am

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That's true, and a matter of semantics.  He doesn't believe Lenape lived in New Jersey.  He thinks all the South Jersey Indians were "Lenopi."   lol

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#9 Jul-26-2015 08:14:pm

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I hope they lose and get disbanded. They've done too much filthy shit. Millsboro and Cheswold should be the only 2 tribes of Nanticoke.


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#10 Jul-27-2015 10:28:am

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NanticokePiney wrote:

I hope they lose and get disbanded. They've done too much filthy shit. Millsboro and Cheswold should be the only 2 tribes of Nanticoke.

Whatever your personal opinions and experiences are, they are still a documented community that meets recognition standards.

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#11 Jul-27-2015 01:08:pm

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I wouldn't want to condemn the whole tribe because of the actions of several individuals (assuming I understand this, rightly).  Here's the latest:  http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/opin … 6cc11.html  (The comment by "Rich Whritenour" is actually mine.  I discovered that my late brother's FB Page is still active, so I used it to comment on this article.)

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#12 Jul-27-2015 04:55:pm

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Just quoting above link at:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/opin … 6cc11.html

Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:01 am
President Andrew Jackson would have loved Gov. Chris Christie. Christie didn't need bloodshed or an Indian Removal Act to obliterate three tribes in New Jersey. He just quietly told the federal government none exist, contrary to a legislative resolution.

But today, as for the past 400 years, native people don't take kindly to their cultural identities being wiped away with pens.
The Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation of about 3,000 members based in Bridgeton this week filed a civil-rights lawsuit in federal court against the state and Christie administration for saying in a federal filing in 2012 that New Jersey doesn't recognize a native N.J. tribe.
Nonetheless, a state Legislature resolution in the early 1980s recognized the Lenni-Lenape nation. A bill to formally recognize the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape, Ramapough Lenape and the Powhatan Renape tribes of New Jersey passed the Assembly in 2011 but failed to clear the Senate.
The New Jersey tribes aren't recognized by the federal government. Without state recognition, they would be considered by the federal government to be social groupings.
Christie's people, including Attorney General John Jay Hoffman, haven't responded, either in court or in public, so the motivation for the assertion isn't clear.
The lawsuit says that the loss of recognition would potentially cost the Lenape $260,000 a year from items labeled "American Indian made," $600,000 in federal health grants and $650,000 in tribal employment. That would be a loss for South Jersey's economy, too.
It's not Christie's first disrespect to the tribes. Soon after he took office in 2010, his administration booted the Powhatan Renape off what had been the Rankokus Indian Reservation for decades and annexed the land back to Rancocas State Park in Burlington County. It didn't just spell a financial loss to that tribe from its annual powwows, museum and cultural center, but also a cultural loss to the public.
The administration's 2012 assertion that no state-recognized tribe exists came from the state Division of Gaming Enforcement, in reply to the federal Indian Arts and Crafts Board's standard inquiry to the state Commission on American Indian Affairs for any additions to the state's list of recognized tribes.
Christie may fear that the three tribes - the Lenni-Lenape, Ramapough Lenape and Powhatan Renape - could someday attempt to enter the gambling industry. Yet the three signed a joint resolution in May 2011 rejecting any American Indian gambling enterprise.
The Indian Affairs Commission is in the state Department of State, while Gaming Enforcement is a division of the Attorney General's Office. How did a federal cultural board's request for data wind up in another department? That's not a question of the pending litigation but one that might interest the public.
If the Christie administration thinks these groups don't deserve state recognition or that the state should leave tribal recognition to the federal government, then it should make that case and let residents and their representatives participate in the decision. Otherwise, the prior degree of state recognition should stand. Change by isolated filing is inappropriate.
Likewise, if the tribes want more formal recognition, the path is through the Legislature and governor, not via a lawsuit.
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#13 Jul-27-2015 04:56:pm

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#14 Jul-27-2015 05:36:pm

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I'm not able to view the comments at all.

This newspaper has one of the worst websites I've seen.  I have to refresh it a half-dozen times to see the whole article.  Also, my comment only shows up after several attempts.  It's basically just the same comment I made above regarding the Indian Commission being created by State statute.

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#15 Jul-27-2015 07:32:pm

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I'd like to direct the casual readers  to this thread:

Documentary Evidence on the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape

http://woodlandindians.org/forums/viewt … p?id=10057

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tree hugger wrote:

I'm not able to view the comments at all.

This newspaper has one of the worst websites I've seen.  I have to refresh it a half-dozen times to see the whole article.  Also, my comment only shows up after several attempts.  It's basically just the same comment I made above regarding the Indian Commission being created by State statute.

Yeah, the whole site was a struggle. Thanks for confirming it wasn't just me!

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Treatment of Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape a special kind of shame | Guest Column

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#19 Oct-24-2015 11:05:am

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Quoting above article:

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news … 043ab.html

New Jersey moves to dismiss Lenni-Lenape lawsuit over state recognition

Posted: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:30 pm
THOMAS BARLAS, Staff Writer
New Jersey is moving to dismiss a lawsuit filed by a Cumberland County-based tribal nation that claims the state rescinded the official recognition it received decades ago.
The Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation traces its history in the area back 12,000 years and says it now has 3,000 members, most living in South Jersey.
The tribal nation alleges in its federal lawsuit that the Legislature passed a resolution recognizing the tribe in the 1980s. That was followed by a state staffer emailing the federal government’s General Accounting Office several years ago that New Jersey had no recognized tribes.
In a court filing this week, the state argues that the Legislature’s action didn’t amount to official recognition because Congress has the sole authority to recognize tribes. The Legislature’s action and other statutes that mention the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape by name “reflect a designation that the nation and certain other purported American Indian tribes exist in New Jersey,” the state argues.
“These actions, however, cannot be viewed as a formal recognition of the status of these tribes as independent and sovereign political communities with defined territory,” the state contends.
The state also claims it is protected by the 11th Amendment and that the tribe failed to properly state a claim. The 11th Amendment limits the power of federal courts to hear lawsuits against state governments brought by the citizens or another state or a foreign country.
“(The tribal nation) has not plausibly alleged government conduct that ‘shocks the conscience,’” the state argues.
Greg Werkeiser, attorney for the tribal nation, said the state’s action to dismiss the federal lawsuit is misguided, and that states have recognized tribal nations for at least 30 years.
“There are dozens and dozens of tribes recognized by states and multiple states,” Werkeiser said. “It just kind of further reveals that the state (Attorney General’s Office), either out of a lack of understanding or on purpose, is misconstruing federal jurisdiction and state recognition of tribes.”
Meanwhile, the tribe earlier this month filed a second lawsuit on the matter, this one in Superior Court. The latest lawsuit, filed earlier this month, contains state-related issues that were removed from the federal lawsuit, which was filed in July.
The tribe says not having state recognition affects its ability to sell crafts including beadwork, walking sticks, drums, headdresses, regalia and pottery as “Indian made.” The tribe says that could cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars annually.
The Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape claim they could also lose $600,000 in grants, tribal jobs and scholarships that are tied to its designation as a recognized tribe.
A judge is expected to rule on the state’s motion by early December.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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American Indian tribe files second lawsuit against New Jersey

By Anna Merriman | For NJ.com
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on October 23, 2015 at 7:30 AM, updated October 23, 2015 at 12:05 PM

TRENTON — The Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation filed a civil rights lawsuit against New Jersey and Attorney General John Hoffman, claiming they were wrong in not recognizing the Nation as an official American Indian tribe.

The lawsuit, filed Oct. 13 in Mercer County Superior Court, is very similar to one the tribe filed in federal court in July, according to Frank Corrado, an attorney representing the Nanticoke Nation, as they refer to themselves.

Corrado said the initial lawsuit was filed with both state and federal claims but that he pulled the first state claim and refiled it this month in Mercer County.

Earlier this week the state responded to the federal lawsuit with a motion to dismiss, calling it "misguided."

Both lawsuits are a response to the state's 2012 decision to not recognize the Nanticoke and two other New Jersey-based tribal nations as official American Indian tribal nations, according to the lawsuit.

The Nanticoke Nation claims that without state recognition as an official American Indian tribe, they would lose benefits including the authorization to label crafts that they sell, "Indian-made," the suit says.

Additionally, members of the nation may have a more difficult time getting grants and student scholarships. They could also lose support from a U.S. business development program which helps out small businesses owned by American Indians, the suit claims.

The Nanticoke, who are based in Bridgeton, have 3,000 members and 500 generations of American Indians who have lived in New Jersey, the lawsuit says.

The tribe has been officially recognized by the state legislature since 1982.

However, the Attorney General's office said in 2012 it does not recognize the tribe, the suit claims.

"At a minimum the legislature would have to say that (they) don't recognize (The Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation)," Corrado said of how the 1982 decision could be reversed.

He said that hasn't happened but called the Attorney General's 2012 action to not recognize the nation an, "unlawful repudiation."

A representative from Hoffman's office declined to comment Thursday but confirmed that they filed a motion to dismiss the federal lawsuit earlier this week.

In the motion, the state claims both that they are protected by the 11th Amendment and that the Nanticoke Nation has failed to state a claim.

"(The Nanticoke Nation) has not plausibly alleged government conduct that 'shocks the conscience,'" the motion stated.

Corrado said that he plans to serve the Attorney General's office with the state lawsuit soon.

Anna Merriman may be reached at amerriman@njadvancemedia.com. Follow her on Twitter @anna_merriman Find The Times of Trenton on Facebook.

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Link to suit filed in July. Court document:


http://www.culturalheritagepartners.com … -Filed.pdf

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Lenni-Lenape Panel Celebrates Native American Heritage

By Jennifer Leon, Contributing Writer
December 3, 2015 8:44 am

http://themontclarion.org/lenni-lenape- … -heritage/

In 2012, New Jersey threatened to rescind the tribal status of the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation. In response, the tribe is suing the state of New Jersey and attorney general John Hoffman.

Mark Clatterbuck, religion professor at Montclair State, said, “The Lenni-Lenape tribe traces its roots in this region back 10,000 to 12,000 years, through 500 generations.”

Clatterbuck said, “It appears that the governor is denying tribal recognition due to race-based fears that they want to build a casino. But the tribe itself has passed legislation banning casinos, so that’s a false fear.”

During a panel on Wednesday night, Reverend Dr. Norwood, Principal Justice of the Tribal Court, said, “by tribal law, this is a non-gaming tribe. We will not profit from any form of vice.”

Dr. Norwood said, “American Indians can’t produce craft work or label it as ‘American Indian Made’ or even use the name of their tribes on their product if the American Indian tribe is not state or federally recognized. There is a hefty federal fine if you violate this policy. They first need the state’s seal of approval.”
Lead Attorney Greg Werkheiser noted that with the swipe of a pen, the status of the Lenni-Lenape Tribe was put to question.

During the panel, Werkheiser said, “There is an assumption that Native American equals casino. The vast majority do not want a casino. But that is not what you see on TV.”

Werkheiser then said, “This damaged their businesses, and now their students don’t get scholarships (the tribe no longer receives grants for its people).”
“This is a civil rights lawsuit. It is illegal for a government to give or take benefits on an individual’s race. We are looking for the state to do the right thing or at least to stop doing the wrong thing.”

During the panel, Mark Gould, Principal Chief and Chairman of the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape tribal nation raised his right hand as he leaned closer to the audience and said, “Ain’t no hill to a climber. You could do anything, just like this. You may put me down, but I’ll be back.”

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It appears that the governor is denying tribal recognition due to race-based fears that they want to build a casino.

I highly doubt that's the reason. JMO

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http://ancestorstealing.blogspot.com/2015/12

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Law Suit? Really? Fakes Trying To Force Recognition.
Amusing, a fake group in New Jersey calling themselves the "Nanicoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation".

This group was able to gain state recognition in 1982 by using false information into making the state legislature believe they were a Delaware tribe... what did they claim? In this article from AP it states they "trace its history in the area back 12,000 years"  I say impossible!

In this article, from the Montclarion states: "Mark Clatterbuck, religion professor at Montclair State, said, “The Lenni-Lenape tribe traces its roots in this region back 10,000 to 12,000 years, through 500 generations.”

Again, this is impossible! 

It is virtually impossible to trace any Indian heritage back 12,000 years, it is impossible to trace anyone back 12,000 years! The Indian people who trace their family lines can go back three, maybe four generations. There are some who can go back five or six generations, but that is very rare.

Thanks to the First Amendment, which gives us Freedom Of Speech, I can say, this Professor Mark Clatterbuck is a religious freak, who I do not think he is fit to teach a group of rocks! Clatterbuck wrote this in 1993. It starts:
"As the end of the world draws near, per the theological calculations of many American churchgoers, more and more indigenous Christians across the United States are turning their hopes toward Israel. They do so with an eye to fulfilling the requisite Last Days prophecies, buoyed by a sense of solidarity with the tiny nation born of a shared survivorship through centuries of oppression. Theories uniting Jews and American Indians in ancestral alchemy have flourished since Europeans landed on New World shores, beginning with Christopher Columbus.[3] Through most of that history, fascination with the presumed Jewish roots of indigenous Americans was located primarily—if not exclusively—among non-Native commentators on American Indians, captivating the religious and historical imaginations of European Christians and, occasionally, of European Jews."

From the Montclairon:

Clatterbuck states about the removal of recognition "It appears that the governor is denying tribal recognition due to race-based fears that they want to build a casino. But the tribe itself has passed legislation banning casinos, so that’s a false fear.”

Reverend Dr. Norwood, Principal Justice of the Tribal Court, said, “by tribal law, this is a non-gaming tribe. We will not profit from any form of vice.”

Dr. Norwood said, “American Indians can’t produce craft work or label it as ‘American Indian Made’ or even use the name of their tribes on their product if the American Indian tribe is not state or federally recognized. There is a hefty federal fine if you violate this policy. They first need the state’s seal of approval.”
Lead Attorney Greg Werkheiser noted that with the swipe of a pen, the status of the Lenni-Lenape Tribe was put to question.
During the panel, Werkheiser said, “There is an assumption that Native American equals casino. The vast majority do not want a casino. But that is not what you see on TV.”
Werkheiser then said, “This damaged their businesses, and now their students don’t get scholarships (the tribe no longer receives grants for its people).”
“This is a civil rights lawsuit. It is illegal for a government to give or take benefits on an individual’s race. We are looking for the state to do the right thing or at least to stop doing the wrong thing.”
During the panel, Mark Gould, Principal Chief and Chairman of the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape tribal nation raised his right hand as he leaned closer to the audience and said, “Ain’t no hill to a climber. You could do anything, just like this. You may put me down, but I’ll be back.”

Do you see it? It's ALL ABOUT MONEY! "They can't sell their crafts as Indian made"
I will tell my readers, that over 90% of state recognized tribes are FAKES! DO NOT BUY FROM THEM! When I have been on pow wow committees or Indian art issues, I have always REJECTED state recognized tribes and have not allowed them to sell as Indian made. Sure they whine and claim they will file complaints, I tell them they are free to do so, but the US Constitution is very clear, only the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has the right to do commerce with Indian tribes.

The AP article makes it VERY clear:
In a court filing this week, the state argued that the Legislature's action didn't amount to official recognition because Congress has the sole authority to recognize tribes.
The Legislature's action and other statutes that mention the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape by name "reflect a designation that the Nation and certain other purported American Indian tribes exist in New Jersey," the state's brief argues. "These actions, however, cannot be viewed as a formal recognition of the status of these tribes as independent and sovereign political communities with defined territory."
The state also argued that the tribe's lawsuit fails to demonstrate a due process violation under the 14th Amendment because the right to be recognized by the state "doesn't fall within the limited list of fundamental rights and liberties that are deeply rooted in this country's history."

Only CONGRESS has the sole authority to recognize tribes!

BAM! BOOYAH!



Now this group-o-fakes are upset,they will lose $600,000 in grants, tribal jobs and scholarships. Do they understand this money is supposed to go to true Indian people who's ancestors were forced from their homelands? Their people were slaughtered! Called "savage" "heathen" "unfit to live", and now the very descendants of those who came to steal the land, while committing genocide, wish to make false history and try to steal more from those tribes. WHO IS THE REAL SAVAGE?

Professor Clatterbuck, WE ARE NOT CONNECTED TO ISRAEL! Religion was FORCED upon the Native people by white religious freaks such as yourself! Religion was USED as a excuse to try and exterminate a race of people! Religion became oppression, and it is still used today to oppress others cultures and beliefs. Why can't you people just leave others alone?

Ever connect the dots? Religious groups going to different countries on their "bible mission" to "spread the word". Then we wonder why other religions are so upset with people from America... The only mission I have seen when it involves the christian faith is those who want to force what they believe onto others, and if you do not believe, you are "going to hell", and they are called "heathen", "savage"

When you force your views and way of life on others, it is you who becomes the heathen, the savage. and I do not think that God ever intended to have one religious view forced upon others, I truly believe God wants mankind to be good to each other... Does it really matter what someone else religiously believes?

It is all about "control" and the need to 'force" others to do as your will... and there have been millions of victims caused all in the name of religion...

I respect the religious views of others, but I will never understand those who try to change history, those who lie about history and hide the atrocities that happened to Indian people, the people who wish to steal ancestors who do not belong to them, or lie about their own ancestors struggles. All people had their struggles, and people living today should honor the true ancestors. For those who say they are religious, listen to your own ten commandments, starting with "Honor Thy Mother and Father" with "Thou Shalt Not Lie"

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My comments at this blog:

Raymond WhritenourDecember 5, 2015 at 6:51 PM

You can't use census documents, military records, etc. to prove that Susan Taffe Reed, Shelley DePaul, and others are NOT American Indian descendants; then, say that the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape are not American Indian descendants when those same documents show that the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape ARE American Indian descendants! You can't have it both ways. I agreed with your former posts. I disagree with this one.

Here are some scholarly works that should also be consulted regarding their Indian ancestry:

Speck, Frank G., The Nanticoke Community of Delaware, Museum of the American Indian, Heye Foundation, New York (1915)

Speck, Frank G., The Nanticoke and Conoy Indians: with a review of linguistic material from manuscript and living sources : an historical study, Issues 1-2, National Society of the Colonial Dames of America in the State of Delaware, Historical Society of Delaware (1927)

Weslager, Clinton A., Delaware's Forgotten Folk: The Story of the Moors and Nanticokes, University of Pennsylvania Press, Philadelphia (1943)

Weslager, Clinton A., The Nanticoke Indians: A refugee tribal group of Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, PA (1948)

Weslager, Clinton A., The Nanticoke Indians: Past and Present, University of Delaware Press, Newark, DE (1983)

Porter, Frank W., The Nanticoke, (Indians of North America series), Chelsea House Publishing, New York (1987)


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See: http://woodlandindians.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=9615 for documentation.
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